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	<title>Comments on: Challies: Bibleman, Bibleman, does whatever a Bible can&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: d2k</title>
		<link>http://godunboxed.com/2008/04/challies-bibleman-bibleman-does-whatever-a-bible-can/comment-page-1/#comment-6103</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephanie! So good to hear from you! Thanks so much for commenting.

You are so right - in the end, we must trust God. We, as parents, must be diligent to live out and communicate the Gospel consistently to our children... but God is sovereign and He will do what He does. We have to trust Him with our children. Most of what we do as parents, we simply do out of habit and much of our habit stems from ignorance of any other way. God gave me these precious children to raise to His glory and not my own.

Thanks again for reading (and commenting!). Blessings!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephanie! So good to hear from you! Thanks so much for commenting.</p>
<p>You are so right &#8211; in the end, we must trust God. We, as parents, must be diligent to live out and communicate the Gospel consistently to our children&#8230; but God is sovereign and He will do what He does. We have to trust Him with our children. Most of what we do as parents, we simply do out of habit and much of our habit stems from ignorance of any other way. God gave me these precious children to raise to His glory and not my own.</p>
<p>Thanks again for reading (and commenting!). Blessings!</p>
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		<title>By: stephanie</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that experience did necessary violence to your view of parenting. I liked that sentence.
good.
because you probably thought if you did all the right things you could come out with exactly whatever you were programming for....ah, but you did not create the DNA--God did. And you only provided for the foundational experiences early on....it is so hard. It is so humbling. 
Often, I battled the TV question. I did not let my children watch anything magical (that&#039;s right ---no Disney....no halloween) and yet I was 100% on with the secular ideas of beauty and fashion (although I am not good at that stuff, but my inept experience led me to ensure that my daughters would have a choice. I taught them HOW to beautify and left it to them---sadly, I created monsters and even WORSE--I love it)
I put my children in public school because I was unable to isolate through home schooling. There was a cost for that---however, they are very socially able and that might be a good thing---time will tell.

I think it takes two parents sold out. Not that Steve is &quot;un-sold-out&quot; whatever that would mean--only that he was not committed to the standards I was upholding and so it turned into a choice for the children. it ended up sounding like mom&#039;s nagging instead of a presentation of how WE live in this life.

I&#039;ve always been sold out for Jesus, praying, studying, living out my life outloud before my children with Jesus as my hero. 

Their walk seems to be three steps forward and two steps back and in the end I have to entrust them to the Lord because I know I&#039;ve presented the gospel and service and devotion.

but I still did not get what I wanted!

I wanted missionary, pastor, or worship leader children.

do you know what God has shown me recently?

that I wanted the elite.
OUCH!
just like for myself.
I&#039;ve wanted to be a missionary to China and God showed me it was just like choosing to go to Northwestern--I wanted the elite.
WHAT?
no way!
I&#039;m WAY too humble for that! way too insecure, as a matter of fact.
well, if God says it, He knows what He&#039;s talking about.

So I have now let go of deciding I need to be important (while still checking the fruit to be sure I am in the faith!) and neither do my kids need to be important.
and working on a Jesus centered view where my children are not my gods. (This honestly is not my usual area of struggle, though we parents all have a measure of the problem).
My children do not have to be saved.
If God so chooses (and I&#039;ve held this view all along), then let Him be glorified! In light of His magnificence, I will forget them. (although I can only see through the glass dimly, so they are a major concern at this point)
May God be glorified.

am I making any sense?

I just got on here because I followed the link from your Facebook and then started reading.....and then of course my hands started typing straight from my brain.

but it is good to wrestle with all of this.
Let our devotion and love unto God be true and deep and let us</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that experience did necessary violence to your view of parenting. I liked that sentence.<br />
good.<br />
because you probably thought if you did all the right things you could come out with exactly whatever you were programming for&#8230;.ah, but you did not create the DNA&#8211;God did. And you only provided for the foundational experiences early on&#8230;.it is so hard. It is so humbling.<br />
Often, I battled the TV question. I did not let my children watch anything magical (that&#8217;s right &#8212;no Disney&#8230;.no halloween) and yet I was 100% on with the secular ideas of beauty and fashion (although I am not good at that stuff, but my inept experience led me to ensure that my daughters would have a choice. I taught them HOW to beautify and left it to them&#8212;sadly, I created monsters and even WORSE&#8211;I love it)<br />
I put my children in public school because I was unable to isolate through home schooling. There was a cost for that&#8212;however, they are very socially able and that might be a good thing&#8212;time will tell.</p>
<p>I think it takes two parents sold out. Not that Steve is &#8220;un-sold-out&#8221; whatever that would mean&#8211;only that he was not committed to the standards I was upholding and so it turned into a choice for the children. it ended up sounding like mom&#8217;s nagging instead of a presentation of how WE live in this life.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always been sold out for Jesus, praying, studying, living out my life outloud before my children with Jesus as my hero. </p>
<p>Their walk seems to be three steps forward and two steps back and in the end I have to entrust them to the Lord because I know I&#8217;ve presented the gospel and service and devotion.</p>
<p>but I still did not get what I wanted!</p>
<p>I wanted missionary, pastor, or worship leader children.</p>
<p>do you know what God has shown me recently?</p>
<p>that I wanted the elite.<br />
OUCH!<br />
just like for myself.<br />
I&#8217;ve wanted to be a missionary to China and God showed me it was just like choosing to go to Northwestern&#8211;I wanted the elite.<br />
WHAT?<br />
no way!<br />
I&#8217;m WAY too humble for that! way too insecure, as a matter of fact.<br />
well, if God says it, He knows what He&#8217;s talking about.</p>
<p>So I have now let go of deciding I need to be important (while still checking the fruit to be sure I am in the faith!) and neither do my kids need to be important.<br />
and working on a Jesus centered view where my children are not my gods. (This honestly is not my usual area of struggle, though we parents all have a measure of the problem).<br />
My children do not have to be saved.<br />
If God so chooses (and I&#8217;ve held this view all along), then let Him be glorified! In light of His magnificence, I will forget them. (although I can only see through the glass dimly, so they are a major concern at this point)<br />
May God be glorified.</p>
<p>am I making any sense?</p>
<p>I just got on here because I followed the link from your Facebook and then started reading&#8230;..and then of course my hands started typing straight from my brain.</p>
<p>but it is good to wrestle with all of this.<br />
Let our devotion and love unto God be true and deep and let us</p>
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